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Qwen3.8

On the AxForge API eu-se-1 · Stockholm LLMs Qwen Vision + text 6 builds Open weights 5.1M dl/mo

Qwen3.8 is an open-weight language model from Qwen, available today on the AxForge serverless API, OpenAI-compatible and hosted in the EU.

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  • Qwen3.8 is a 27.8B parameter vision-language model developed by Qwen for image-text-to-text tasks.
  • It features a native context length of 262,144 tokens, extensible up to 1,000,000 tokens, and supports flexible thinking control with preserved reasoning context.
  • The model is released under the apache-2.0 license and is available in FP8-quantized format.

Summary of the Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B-FP8 model card, 2026-10-01. The estimate below is for another build of the family.

What it is

Released byQwen
Released2026-08-13
Parameters27.8B
VRAM21.9 GB for the weights

What it runs on

Memory and cards for Qwen3.8-27B-NVFP4 (NVFP4)

21.9 GBweights, file size
66 MBcache per 1K tokens
308 MBfixed state per request
2.2 GBruntime overhead, at least
262,144 tokenscontext max
CardRequests at onceContext maxMemory
8K each32K each
RTX 3060 12 GB … RTX 4090 24 GB
4 smaller cards
———
RTX 5090 32 GB8298K31.0 GB
L40S 48 GB
FP4 without its speed-up here
238all 256K44.0 GB
A100 80 GB
FP4 without its speed-up here
6422all 256K78.2 GB
H100 80 GB
FP4 without its speed-up here
5719all 256K78.1 GB
RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell 96 GB7526all 256K93.8 GB
DGX Spark (GB10) 128 GB unified9131all 256K107 GB
H200 141 GB
FP4 without its speed-up here
12844all 256K138 GB
B200 180 GB17259all 256K176 GB
2× RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB
tensor parallel · FP4 without its speed-up here
5162K15.4 GB a card
2× RTX 4090 24 GB
tensor parallel · FP4 without its speed-up here
248all 256K23.4 GB a card
2× RTX 3090 24 GB
tensor parallel · FP4 without its speed-up here
248all 256K23.4 GB a card
Memory needed at each load
Requests at once8K tokens each32K tokens each
125.0 GB26.6 GB
528.3 GB36.4 GB
830.9 GB43.8 GB
1637.6 GB63.4 GB
3251.2 GB103 GB
6478.2 GB181 GB

One card, with vLLM's small-card settings.

Builds

Sizes, precisions & builds

BuildParamsPrecisionWeightsSmallest setup
Qwen3.8-27B-NVFP4 (above) ↗ On the API
packaged by NVIDIA
27BNVFP4 21.9 GB2× RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-FP8 ↗ 27.8BFP8 30.9 GBL40S 48 GB
Qwen3.8-27B ↗ 27.8BBF16 55.6 GBH100 80 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-INT4 ↗
packaged by RedHatAI
27.4BINT4 19.5 GBRTX 4090 24 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-FP8 ↗
packaged by unsloth
27.8BFP8 30.9 GBL40S 48 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-NVFP4 ↗
packaged by RedHatAI
19.9BNVFP4 24.7 GB2× RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB

From the model card

What Qwen says about Qwen3.8

Read the model card

[!Note] This repository contains FP8-quantized model weights and configuration files for the post-trained model in the Hugging Face Transformers format.

These artifacts are compatible with Hugging Face Transformers, vLLM, SGLang, TokenSpeed, etc.

The quantization method is fine-grained fp8 quantization with block size of 128, and its performance metrics are nearly identical to those of the original model.

[!Tip] For users seeking managed, scalable inference without infrastructure maintenance, the official Qwen API service is provided by Qwen Cloud.

In particular, Qwen3.8-27B will be available as a hosted version with more production features, e.g., 1M context length by default, official built-in tools. For more information, please refer to the Qwen3.8-27B Overview. The service is coming soon. Stay tuned for updates.

Following the widespread community adoption of the Qwen3.5 and Qwen3.6 series, we are pleased to introduce Qwen3.8, the most capable generation in the Qwen open-model family to date.

Built on the architectural foundation of Qwen3.5, Qwen3.8 delivers substantial gains across coding, professional work, research, and long-horizon agentic tasks. Qwen3.8-27B brings these advances to a compact, deployment-friendly dense model: a native vision-language model that understands images and videos, with flexible thinking control, designed to carry complex, multi-step tasks through to completion with greater reliability.

Qwen3.8 Highlights

Qwen3.8-27B features the following enhancements:

  • Core Capabilities: Comprehensive improvements across coding, professional work, research, and long-horizon agentic tasks.
  • Agent Execution: Stronger autonomous planning and better handling of environment feedback, leading to more reliable end-to-end task completion.
  • Downstream Compatibility: Broader support for popular harnesses and development tools, making it easier to integrate into your existing stack.
  • Flexible Thinking Control: Thinking mode is on by default and can be disabled per request; reasoning depth can be tuned with reasoning_effort, and reasoning context from historical messages is retained via preserve_thinking.
  • Vision-Language Understanding: Native support for image and video understanding, from STEM diagrams and documents to hour-scale videos.

Model Overview

  • Type: Causal Language Model with Vision Encoder
  • Training Stage: Pre-training & Post-training
  • Language Model
    • Number of Parameters: 27B
    • Hidden Dimension: 5120
    • Token Embedding: 248,320 (Padded)
    • Number of Layers: 64
    • Hidden Layout: 16 × (3 × (Gated DeltaNet → FFN) → 1 × (Gated Attention → FFN))
    • Gated DeltaNet:
      • Number of Linear Attention Heads: 48 for V and 16 for QK
      • Head Dimension: 128
    • Gated Attention:
      • Number of Attention Heads: 24 for Q and 4 for KV
      • Head Dimension: 256
      • Rotary Position Embedding Dimension: 64
    • Feed Forward Network:
      • Intermediate Dimension: 17,408
    • LM Output: 248,320 (Padded)
    • MTP (Multi-Token Prediction): trained with multiple steps
  • Context Length: 262,144 natively and extensible up to 1,000,000 tokens.

Benchmark Results

Text Performance

.vl-table th{font-size:15px!important;line-height:1.2} .vl-table td:not(.benchmark-cell):not([colspan]){font-size:15px;line-height:1.2;vertical-align:middle} .vl-table .benchmark-cell{padding:12px 10px 12px 18px!important;vertical-align:middle} .vl-table .benchmark-capability{font-size:15px;font-weight:600;line-height:1.22;color:#171717} .vl-table .benchmark-name{margin-top:4px;font-size:11px;font-weight:400;line-height:1.2;color:#6B6B6B} .vl-table .metric-stack{display:flex;flex-direction:column;gap:7px;padding:3px 0} .vl-table .metric-label{font-size:10px;font-weight:400;line-height:1.1;color:#777} .vl-table .metric-value{margin-top:2px;font-size:15px;line-height:1.15;color:#171717}

VL Performance

Quickstart

For streamlined integration, we recommend using Qwen3.8 via APIs.

Serving Qwen3.8

[!Important] Inference efficiency and throughput vary significantly across frameworks. We recommend using the latest framework versions to ensure optimal performance and compatibility. For production workloads or high-throughput scenarios, dedicated serving engines such as SGLang, vLLM, or TokenSpeed are recommended.

Qwen3.8 can be deployed with popular inference frameworks, e.g.:

API Usage

[!Important] Qwen3.8 models operate in thinking mode by default, generating thinking content signified by \n...\n\n before producing the final response. To disable thinking content and obtain a direct response, refer to the examples here.

[!Tip] We recommend using the following sets of sampling parameters for generation:

  • Thinking Mode: temperature=1.0, top_p=0.95, top_k=20, min_p=0.0, presence_penalty=0.0, repetition_penalty=1.0
  • Instruct (or non-thinking) mode: temperature=0.7, top_p=0.80, top_k=20, min_p=0.0, presence_penalty=1.5, repetition_penalty=1.0

Please note that the support for sampling parameters varies according to inference frameworks.

Qwen3.8 comes with official support for reasoning_effort, which can be used to adjust reasoning depth and control cost:

  • xhigh (default): for complex tasks demanding thorough analysis
  • medium: balancing accuracy and speed
  • low: efficient reasoning optimizing for speed and cost

In addition, preserve_thinking is enabled by default for all wor

Quoted from the model card on Hugging Face. The full card is behind the Hugging Face link above.

Using it via the API

Call it like any OpenAI endpoint

Qwen3.8 answers on the OpenAI-compatible API today as qwen3.8-27b-nvfp4, with the same base URL and keys as every other model.

# your API key, from API Keys
export AXFORGE_API_KEY="YOUR_KEY"

curl https://api.axforge.ai/v1/chat/completions \
  -H "Authorization: Bearer $AXFORGE_API_KEY" \
  -H "Content-Type: application/json" \
  -d '{"model":"qwen3.8-27b-nvfp4","messages":[{"role":"user","content":"Hello"}]}'
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